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 I load 46 gr of H322, WW Winchester large pistol primers,Starline brass and BTB 425 gr, 460 diameter bullets, Lee crimping die These bullets weigh about 430 grains on average Use in a Marlin 15 SS with MicroGroove rifling Did start at 49 gr but loads were stout enough to make lever pop open45 70 Government Manufacturer Loading Data Pistol;4570 GOVERNMENT Use 31cc Powder Measure for all loads listed below These loads are safe to use in all guns in good condition BULLET WEIGHT IN GRAINS POWDER TYPE & MANUFACTURER GRAINS POWDER APPROX VELOCITIES IMR 43 IMR 45 IMR 3031 IMR 4064 Hercules Reloader 7 Hodgdon 45

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Well me being me @ 75kg thought I RL7 is one of the best all around powders for the 4570 in my book It handles a wide range of bullet weights well, and yes, it's my pick for the 400/405 grain I don't push my loads over "book" max as is popular with many folksNotes These loads are for all guns in GOOD CONDITION With NEVER EXCEED LOADS maintain Minimum Over All Length or longer Large Rifle primer (Modern Reloading Second Edition Richard Lee) Be Alert Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data

Can anyone confirm a heavy load for this cartridge and rifle that I can pass along?Case length was 2100 inches for use with a 405grain roundnose leadalloy bullet of 457inch diameter The initial powder charge was 70 grains of black powder There were complaints of the light carbines giving heavy recoil with that charge, and soon a special carbine load appeared using only 55 grains of powder with the same 405grain bulletSmokeless small rifle powder Designed for small caliber varmint loads, it meters consistently and meets the needs of the most demanding bench rest shooter Great in 4570 and 450 Marlin Small caliber varmint loads Great for 4570 and 450 Marlin Meters consistently Principal Purpose Light rifle Secondary Uses 4570 gov't

 Either way, I'm avoiding light loads from here on out Here are the loads that actually work for me, in my 4570 BFR with a 75" barrel at 30F and 5800' elevation (Low pressure plinking load) Starline brass Federal gold medal match magnum GM215M primers Oregon Trail 405 grain 458" hard cast bullets 45 grains of Varget (started at 40, worked up 4570, 405 gr Bullet Powder Weight Powder Velocity OAL Primer Source JSP 0 gr 2400 1,000 fps 2540" LR guest Trapdoor load from Hercules Powder Reloader's Guide 4/85 15,300 CUP, 405 gr Rem JSP, Rem 9 1/2 primer Email author paul53 See all of paul53's loads JSP 250 gr 2400 1,260 fps 2540" LR guestWelcome to the Channel I am disposable762 and this is the place for gun and knife reviews, table top and field reviews for different gear and pieces of kit,

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That load consisted of a 405grain hollowbased bullet over a full 70grain charge of 2Fg Goex black powder That's my heaviest loaded black powder 4570, so I thought it would provide the best black powder baseline to compare to the hotter Triple 7 At the range I fired all loads from both the 50 and the 100 yard range Loads for 405 gr lee cast in 45/70 Jump to Latest Follow 1 10 of 10 Posts M missed_shot Registered Joined 166 Posts Discussion Starter #1 I just cast about 50 405 gr hollow base 45/70 bullets from Lee The 405 will not fire with just the primer, but the Lead balls will It is a complex process to get a 45/70 to sound like a BB gun and kill a coon with a body shot That keeps the powder charge down around one grain I suspect your noisy but accurate lite loads with 5 gr Unique and either of your bullets will do fine

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One 4570 load approximates the performance of the original 4570 Govt black powder loading of a 405 grain bullet (307 BC) at 1350 feet per second while the other is a 325gr Hornady LEVERevolution factory load (230 BC) The 3006 Springfield load is a 150 grain Nosler Partition (387 BC) at 3,000 feet per second 4570 405 grain RNFP Hard Cast Bullets for Reloading This is a very accurate 4570 Cast Bullet, perfect for lever action rifles as well as single shots The 405 gr bullet has a long history as being the most popular bullet loaded for the 4570 The lube utilized on these bullets is a tad softer and a bit tacky Hi gang, My son gave me a Older T/C Contender with a 10" 45/70 barrel The loads I use in my Sharps (Reloader 7 under a 405 grain lead bullet) are way to hot for this old man about took my hands off I have cast some 240 grain round nose bullets, but can't find any loading data for the lighter bullet I have listings for a 300gr jacketed

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 In the Ruger rifles, you can load 45 70 ammunition to nearly the same velocities and the same pressures as a 458 Winchester Magnum, which is to say, crazy levels (at least in terms of recoil) Ruger rifles chambered in 45 70 can handle pressures approaching 40,000 psi, with 405grain bullet velocities north of 2,000 feet per second Reloader 7 in the 4570 is a GREAT powder to use I use it, loading for both the Marlin 15G and 15CB With a 405 grain Cast Performance LWNGC boolit, the RL7 yields very good velocity and FANTASTIC accuracy out of my rifles, with lower pressures than say, IMR3031 and/or H45 I'm using 400 grains of RL7 For light recoiling loads IMI Trailboss is a very good powder to use in the 4570 You can get 1000 10 fps with 405 gr bullets without the need to use fillers to fill up excess cartridge space Use 13gr to 18 gr

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 The best range load for this powder, bullet and rifle seems to be around the 45 gr of IMR 3031 mark Even though I now had loads for 4570 using these 405 gr cast bullets, I wondered what Hornady 325 gr Leverevolution ammunition would chronograph It was travelling at 15 fps Again, this is 80 gr lighter bullet than the ones we were testing Joined 1,059 Posts # Unique is my favorite powder for target and plinking loads in the 4570, I usually use 13 grains with cast bullets For hotter loads I use 2400 and for much hotter loads I use 4198 or RL7 Unique is dirty but very accurate and easy on the shoulder quite a few (cast) (copper) an (jacketed) loads surfacing around for the GREAT 45/70 Here are some i shoot but mine are over stated max so proceed with caution 14gr unique 405 gr lfn 302gr imr4227 405 gr lfn shoots about the same as above unique load 5 gr n1 300gr barnes tsx

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 One likes one set of loads and the other a different set The complete original likes the lightest bullet with the lightest load, meaning 405 grain Lee Hollow Base bullet over 55 grains FFG The relined barrel 4570 prefers the heaviest bullet with the heaviest load, meaning 500 grain flat base bullet over 70 grains FFG Varget in the 4570 I used up all of my 5744 and have started using Varget with 405 grain cast and jacketed bullets in the 4570 Varget burns cleaner to me and I like the fact that it pretty much fills the case up completely I have only fired a few sight in groups with the 405 grain jacketed but have loaded some 405 grain cast w/GC and am As stated above Its for a marlin guide gun in 4570 22" barrel Load is for 405 grain hard cast lead Reloader 7 is my preferred powder Says start 29 grains max 60 grains (upper end data probably isn't for a lever rifle) Strangely, the Alliant website doesn't list RL7 in 4570 data Says start 29 grains max 60 grains (upper end data

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The 4570 fired a 45 caliber 405 grain projectile over 70 grains of black powder for a muzzle velocity of roughly 10fps The official military designation of the new cartridge was the 5 Caliber was 458" (116mm) and rifling consisted of 1 turn in "4570 RNFP 405 Grain Diameter (458) Flat Rate Shipping is included in the price Category Hard Cast Bullets 45/70 405GR Lever Action 458 RNFP Product Code MBLVR 4570 405GR (458) 3 Lube Groove This is a new 4570 designed to cycle through the LEVER ACTION RIFLES It is 1035 inches OL and 0436 from crimp groove to noseGR ALL 250 gr 300 gr 325 gr 350 gr 385 gr 400 gr 405 gr 4 gr 440 gr 460 gr 473 gr 485 gr 500 gr 525 gr 535 gr Bullet Type Primer Powder

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 27 grs Accurate 5744 and a 405 cast bullet shoots ragged hole groups at 100 yards and runs 1300 fps out of my Sharps 4570 You can load that Ruger from trapdoor springfield loads to just under 458 Win mag loads Do not use any filler or card wads with Accurate 5744 powder It is designed for these large cases and is not position sensitive I just picked up a Marlin 15G in 4570 Bought some dies (Hornady 3 dies), cases, primers, powder, and 405gr RNFP's I was hoping some "old timers" , wouldn't mind sharing some of there lessons learned with me Some loaddata lists the 400 grain bullet as the max for a 4570 15, but others say 500 is fine?

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Number of Loads4570 Goverment (T/C Handgun / using Hornady bullets) Government Government (in a Sharps Model 1874 / Venturino Data) Government (16 Winchester and 15 Marlin) (Speer Data) Government (16 Winchester Model 22inch Barrel) Government (15 Marlin) (Barnes Reloading Manual #3) 52 I use Trail Boss for several different calibers, but 4570 is not one of them To make a long story short, the loads listed for Trail Boss and a 405 Grain bullet have a lower velocity and a higher pressure than loads woth 4064 and 45, both of which have given me excellent results in my 14 Trapdoor rifle LOADS DATA 405 gr Cast/sized 452" by GaCop » Thu 611 pm Had a bunch of Missouri Bullet 405 grain cast left over from my 4570 days A friend and I resized them to 452' doing it in stages so the wouldn't come out distorted I've been searching on the internet but can't find any data for a bullet that heavy

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 your probably using a lever gun (you never told us) With a 325 grain bullet, you can expect something in the area 1950 fps, and drop about 100fps with the 350 grain bullet I recommend the Speer 405 grain bullet Works very well in the 450 Marlin, so it should do well in the 4570Their 4570 Magnum ammo performs exactly like you'd expect this is hard hitting ammunition specifically designed for hunting the biggest bears and moose Their 300 grain JHP and 405 grain JFN loads in particular are also excellent 4570 ammo for bear defense and will flatten any bear on this planet with proper shot placement I use H4198 behind a 405 gr Remington, somewhere around 475 grains gives 1,861 fps from my 22" inch barrel This load is fast enough, very accurate, and gives no pressure problems IN MY RIFLE!

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From what I've read and been told, "loading a 405 gr projectile @ 00 fps has too much kick and hurts to shoot"? Purists might say the proper designation is "5"—meaning 45 caliber, 70 grains of blackpowder and a 405grain bullet That was the original load and the original designation, but with the advent of the stronger Springfield 14, the standard load changed to a 500grain bullet — 0—which gave better longrange performanceThe traditional 4570 factory load is a 405 grain bullet (BC 214, SD 272) at a MV of 1330 fps, and a ME of 1590 ft lbs This is a very moderate load that kills well because of the penetration of its big, heavy bullet It has been used on all North American game, but today should be restricted to use at close range

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4570 Magnum Lever Gun Ammo 405 gr JFN @ 2,000 fps/ME 3,597 ft lbs Round Box ITEM 8B PRESS RELEASE FOR BUFFALO BORE 4570 MAGNUMLEVER GUN (ITEMS 8A, 8B, 8C, 8D, and 8E) Our 4570 ammunition is externally identical to SAAMI spec 4570 ammo, but internally it generates FAR more power and pressure But, for example, this site has lots of load data and is showing 14gr of Unique under a 405gr bullet for about 1170fps, which might translate to about 1300fps or so with a 300gr bullet 4570 Government Powder Weight /Velocity Data for the 405gr FPbb Here is a thread with a lot of good information about reduced loads Loads for 45/70 (Note These are near MAXIMUM loads, you should use 10% less to start) Powders) Bullet sizes vary from 458″ for jacketed to 459″ for some lead in diameter and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up

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 I have not found the need to look for anything better than Elmer's load, hence I cannot help with the 350 grain loads But I think a 00 fps load with 350 grain bullets in the 22" 45/70 sounds about right Elmer's 45/70 load with 400 grain bullet will beat any 450 Marlin Guide Gun with factory 350 grain ammo 405gr RNFP 45/70 load Just picked up a nice used Marlin 15GBL and ordered up some of these commercial cast bullets Locking for some suggested starting loads Will be using Starline brass 405 GR 4570 Government 405 grain RNFP This is our favorite 45/70 load for casual plinking These bullets are custom made with a softer alloy that is ideal for the lower pressure and velocity of a proper Trapdoor load If you are a purist and can't wrap your head around shooting jacketed Trapdoor loadsthis one's for you 1,280 FPS (24″) 405

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 This is a 350 gr gas checked bullet from a RanchDog mold and delivers just over 1000 foot pounds at 0 yards You can tailor your load to deliver 1000 foot pounds at your longest expected hunting range getting that velocity and energy with a modern 4570 is an easy task and most hunters use lighter loads anyway to get that 1000 foot pounds Questions Loading the 4570 , 1317 I have a Marlin 15 GG in 4570 and I want to start rolling my own ammo for it I plan to use the rifle as a close range moose and bear gun I have a box of Oregon Trail laser cast 405 gr FP BT and new RP brassI think IMR4198 is a little faster so you should find specific load info for it Pretty good powder for the 4570 IMHO

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